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Hey dude. Again, good game. I wouldn't be commenting here if I didn't like it. Let me just reiterate this for the last time and I'll leave you alone. I'm so impressed with the gameplay. Sadly, half of the girls are still incomplete at this point. I'm not even including marriage, outfits, and inclusion in harems. By incomplete I mean they can't possess all of these:

-100% LP

-100% KP

-collar status

-pregnant status 

I think these 4 are the bare minimum to say that a girl has good enough material. I'm just hoping that in the future, the rate at which the team could complete the existing girls' content far more surpasses the rate at which they add girls to the game. 

Actually, if unnecessary, I would suggest to refrain from adding more. At least until 7 more girls are completed. Coz tbh, adding new girls would just slow you down in finishing the other girls. Your scope for each update is bound to get bigger. If you had to maintain and update 10 girls back then, now you have to maintain 21 of them. It's obviously more work

I know that this isn't the final release yet. But I think trying to make your game feel as complete as possible in every step before final release is important. It helps the players more accurately visualize what the game will be like in final release. The more complete it is before final release, the more convincing it is. It reflects quality. And if people see quality, they'll buy even before the final release.

 For sure, you'll get players to buy it at final release either way but this is one way to maximize the amount players that'll buy it. 

Anyways, cheers! Looking forward to the office harem.

100% agree.  Not sure what your Patreon supporters were thinking, (I believe there was a poll?) but adding Camila at this point just seems completely unnecessary, especially as even meeting her requires, at this point, removal of a girl with unfinished content who was just recently added to a (also unfinished) harem.  (I'm hoping that, at some point, Camila and Kylie will be able to coexist with Camila probably being worked into the taming Harem somehow, though I'd argue Camila's addition should have been held off until coexistance, at least, was possible, assuming she's a part of Kylies storyline, and that's why she was added before Kylie was finished. )

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For me, Kylie is worth more than Camila. She has collar content, in a harem, and planned harem content (sporty x taming harem). Camila lacks all of those and there's a possibility that they'll implement an alternative way of adding Camila without having to remove Kylie from the game. So no way I'm giving up a girl that simply has more content.

Anyways, the main issue of the game for me is the lack of content for the girls. By adding more incomplete girls, they're not only neglecting that issue but making it worse. People have different ways of expressing this to them but I wonder if they're noting it down:

-When will you update X?

-When will there be collar content for X?

-Finally more updates for X. It's been a while.

I see those comments from time to time and it's because they add more girls than they could complete. Anyways, I don't think I could add much to what I said. I hope they take it into consideration when planning for future updates.

The pub event for sasha is not working for me, i'm playing on Android versión with bree MC and when i go to the pub when sasha is there, the event wont trigger

Sir when is Lexi bug fix for Android version ?? Plz reply me 

he reply to me, if it is the pool event, it will be fixed on this next update on this monday, in the meantime on the second event dont aproach directly, choose the other option if there any other bugs, I am unaware, i use both pc and android itch version and the steam version {my wife and I}

Somehow this Minami "Saturday event" isn't triggered in my playthrough. I've waited several ingame Saturdays at home, as it is demanded, but nothing happended. So I'm somehow stuck without any progress with her. Any advice?


Despite of that! Great game - looking forward for more content!

Other events may have had priority or other conditions besides the time and place may have not been met.

I'm playing on the steam version and errors pop up quite a lot compare to the older versions. The markdown below popped up when doing bree's maid path. when i try to verify game file using steam it have to redownload 119 files. Any idea how i can fix this or i can just ignore it?

```

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:

  File "game/bg/livingroom/livingroom.rpy", line 302, in <module>

IndexError: list index out of range

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:

  File "start.rpyc", line 370, in script call

  File "cl/class_room.rpyc", line 289, in script call

  File "cl/class_activity.rpyc", line 226, in script call

  File "bg/livingroom/livingroom.rpyc", line 302, in script

  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1191, in execute

    show_imspec(self.imspec, atl=getattr(self, "atl", None))

  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1147, in show_imspec

    expression = renpy.python.py_eval(expression)

  File "renpy/python.py", line 2249, in py_eval

    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)

  File "renpy/python.py", line 2242, in py_eval_bytecode

    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)

  File "game/bg/livingroom/livingroom.rpy", line 302, in <module>

  File "renpy/python.py", line 992, in __getitem__

    rv = list.__getitem__(self, index)

IndexError: list index out of range

Windows-10-10.0.19041

Ren'Py 7.4.4.1439

Love & Sex : Second Base 21.3.1b

Thu Apr 22 19:45:19 2021

```

Were at least 2 girls there when you clicked on Watch TV ?

yeah i think so. i reloaded a save and speed ran the whole thing and everything is fine again. thanks very much.

I didn't manage to reproduce the issue on my end :(

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Andrealphus, we're all here because LoSe is GREAT. Lots of people complaining, but they're here because what you've built is great. We understand it's a work in progress.
Stay positive. Several of the negative comments could only be made by users who have spent hours in LoSe. That's not a sign of a bad game.
Know that you've got fans. Some of us are more negative than others, but we're fans. After playing the demo, I was happy to pay $20 for the rest.

Thx ;)

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I agree. It's a great game. I bought it too after all. So far I'm still satisfied.

I can't speak for everyone but I complain out of concern that there will just be too many loose ends (unfinished girls) in the future due to how the releases are planned. Unfinished content negatively affect the playability and quality of the game so I hope in the future that is prioritized. 

He could either keep it unfinished 'til the final release or try to tie the loose ends one at a time in the next releases then try to maintain the "complete" status while adding new content once he reaches that point. I think that the latter is more organized and I imagine that it would cause less dissatisfaction among the players as it's the more logical thing to do. Especially for this game where nothing indicates how far we are from the final release. For all we know, he might just add more content until he's satisfied. So it's important to make the players feel that they're playing a "complete" game even if it's not final yet. 

Anyways @AndreaIphus, thanks for reading the feedbacks. Great game. Perhaps my reaction was too much regarding this Camila update. But that's just how much it confused me considering the state of the game so far. I'd rather have 1-2 unfinished girls reach pregnant + collar status than Camila who'll be incomplete until further notice. So I much prefer updates like the office harem over a new girl while the game still has too many loose ends. Thanks! 

I hope I was able to at least buy you a cup of coffee with my purchase. Cheers!

Just out of curiosity was Aletta never suppose to have 100% kink? Or is the lock at 50 kink points a bug/unfinished content?

Unfinished dw ^^

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You get access to all our beta release (so monthly updates) yes :)
To make it short you will get all the content produced for Love & Sex

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Hello. First off, I'd like to say that I like the game and recently bought it on steam. It's really good. I like how each girl has a story of her own and how they could share some scenes together to the point that I'll argue that this is the game's main selling point. 

The game is good but there is an imbalance of well fleshed out girls (i.e. Sasha, Sam, Bree, Cassidy) vs incomplete, underwhelming girls (i.e. Aletta, Harmony, Lavish).

Unfinished storylines directly affect the game's quality and playability. So I don't get why there is a move to add Camila when a lot of the girls' stories are still lacking. Adding new girls is good but I think wrapping up already existing characters should be more fundamental. Sorry I can't help but feel that the priorities are misplaced.

This move of adding Camila (seems like another unfinished girl btw) is like building a house and saying "Hey our living room is still incomplete but let's prioritize adding part of the pool first". It doesn't make sense. It's not just this update. It's like the updates just don't seem to address the unfinished content but keep on adding more unfinished content (I mean it's not like the new girls are finished story-wise). It's a weird development process that's meant to keep the game feel incomplete and mediocre. This development process irks me as a fellow dev.

As long as you have this process of not prioritizing the unfinished content over adding new content, this game can never be a "good game". It will stay as a "game that has potential".

As a player, pursuing incomplete girls is like trying to pursue a test/teaser version of the girl. The whole experience could only be described as lacking. It's not a good standard to have when releasing new girls. This game has a lot of girls but some of them are still "test versions" and not worth pursuing. It just underwhelms the whole "dating experience" knowing that I have to wait for additional scenes/developments in the relationship.

With that, I suggest that the future updates should prioritize the existing girls' development (fundamental) over adding new girls (optional). 

I hope this feedback is considered when planning for future updates. Thank you!

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I'll keep adding new girls when I see it fit.

Camila is the first girl added in 2021, and our main focus the past few months has been on fleshing out the Home Harem, next month will be the Office Harem.

If you don't like playing unfinished content I suggest you wait till the final release of the game.

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Deleted my previous reply as I think you'll get more out of this one from my perspective as dev. Please read the bold text for summary.

When you said "I'll keep adding new girls when I see it fit", when do you consider it "fitting" to add new girls? If Camila's the first one this year, that's fine. But I suggest do it properly. Try to at least have a collar and pregnancy event if you can't make her marriageable or include her in a harem yet or focus on her in the next 2-3 updates until she's complete.

As a fellow dev, I think what's lacking in this game is 2 things. First is quality assurance. It's weird how you're fine with leaving unfinished characters in the game. It's also weird how you're fine with adding more unfinished girls in the game. In the comment below there was a guy that complained about the art of the girls.

Second is the lack of direction/proper planning. I'm not really sure how you guys plan your updates but it only makes sense that existing content should be prioritized over future content.

The base game is already done. Just remove all unfinished girls. You'll be left with probably 6-8. That's your base game and that would feel like a final release. Less options but the experience would still feel complete overall as there are no loose ends. At this point, you're just making add-ons or DLC in the form of monthly release.

So the reason why it feels incomplete is because you guys don't deliver a complete experience of your DLCs. Not because it's not in final release. Adding new girls are obviously bigger changes than adding harems so I'm not sure why you just don't focus on delivering bigger DLCs for consecutive months. It's weird how you guys just leave it unfinished and jump to a completely unrelated deliverable next month. Case in point, this Camila update and the next one. You could spend  the next 1-3 releases wrapping up Camila after adding her but you won't. You'll leave her unfinished for months then wrap her up when you feel like it.

That's been your practice and it led to this version of the game where a lot of things are just incomplete. The game felt unfinished because you deliver unfinished DLCs (mainly new girls) and keep them unfinished for a long time. It's lack of proper planning. If you guys just planned on taking it one DLC at a time, then it would've felt more like a "final release" after each DLC and it would be easier to patch like that. 

Anyways, those are just my thoughts. The game currently lacks QA and direction. Direction being the more urgent one that needs to be addressed. I'm rooting for you guys. This isn't meant to put you down but hopefully point you to a better direction.

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Bruh, I just need you to come and tell me what’s missing in my game the same way you did with this one because my god, just the fact that you pay real attention to details is blessed ...

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Thanks dude. It would've made more sense if they just sticked to adding Harems as a way to continue/complete the existing girls' stories. Like for the office harem, I expect progress from Aletta's and Lavish's individual path. That's nice and I like that update.

If they wanted this Camila update so bad, fine. I respect it. But they should learn to stick to something until it's done. It'll be beneficial for them in the future. Spend the next monthly releases on finishing her (at least KP and LP at 100%). After that, do the office harem. Seeing that they won't even work on her in the next monthly release made it a bad update.

A lot of people would think this Camila update is good but upon closer inspection, it's just bad. Now there are more unfinished girls in the game.

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I need help please.

I am at Bree's maid path and i try to take more kinky points for her. The wiki say about the kitchen fun time event, and I tried it but because Minami was always with Bree in the kitchen I make a new game.... again. I went fast there, before Minami come to the house, but still l cann't activate that event...... It say that I must be "in the front porch" I went the moment Bree is in the kitchen, i stay there and waiting for hours until she go to the kitchen, I even went to work and return again and again. I have Bree (in my original save)50 kinky points (it was 100 but after the update it became 50) 90 love points and 50 lesbian points, with collar, and (in the new save) 50 kinky points, 70 love points, 5 lesbian points and with collar...

Any help please?!!!!!

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Sorry you don't like it, feel free to play a game to your tastes.

Now to answer: the game has been in development for more than 3 years and many artists came and left, I currently have 2 artists working on characters and scenes and 1 artist working on backgrounds. 

Both are imho really good and we redo old art that is not good enough little by little. All character sprites (during dialogues) are from the same artist and I love his work :)

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No big rework of the sprites is planned ATM, as I said we are improving the CGs as some older ones are indeed lacking.

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Just started playing it and all I can say after half an hour is thank god I can turn the voices off! OMG! I have never heard such unenthusiastic voice acting! The actors really couldn't care less! But, that's fine. It hasn't dampened the story, yet! Has Bree got more story in the full version? And, does she get into a girl/girl relationship at all? I am not really interested in Mike very much. I much prefer playing female characters in my Visual Novels. Just found the cheats menu half an hour into playing the game. Really? OK, I am not saying you shouldn't have a cheat mode, but to have it so easily available and not even password protected has completely killed the game for me! That's a real shame! Oh well.

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The accessibility to the cheat codes is due to the fact that the old password system required access to a keyboard with arrow keys, something the Android community had to buy bluetooth keyboards for if they wanted the cheats. Imo, it's just slightly below the "cheat security" of games like Skyrim and Fallout 4. Even so, you don't HAVE to activate cheats, no one is forcing you (except maybe a lack of self-control).

Is it still possible to progress with other characters in the game even if Emma is already my Girlfriend?

yes

Wait, seriously? No consequence whatsoever? :D

Sorry, but $20 just for a demo? That is very steep.

the public version (which is way more than a demo) is free.
The full game is at 19.99.
The "demo" already has as much content as most VN/dating sim out there.

OK, thanks for the reply. I will definitely check the game out. I don't mind even paying $5 for the "demo" (as you call it.) I nearly always do anyway.

100% Progress and Pregnancy for Morgan, please 🥺

pregnancy is possible

could you tell me how? She asked me to used protection everytime we play

U can impregnate her during the threesome between U, her and kleio.

I have a problem with the rent. Game says it"s 100 per week, but it took 300 from my pocket instead. Any less and I get relationship malus. Is that a bug ?

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Okay, so to get Minami in the harem, the Wiki says you need to have a threesome with Sasha and Bree the night before and then WAKE UP between 7:00 and 9:00. However, the only time I can do the normal threesome is at 20:00, which jumps it to 4:00, and the shower threesome doesn't count for some reason.

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Hy i brought the game in steam recently

I dont know if this is a bug but sometimes i cant use a skill book and i dont know why

I tryed having  energy, hunger, clean and fun full (up from 6 ) but i still cant read the books

here is a bug currently that makes it impossible to use an item if you don't have enough money to buy it.

Hi

So I remember there were a lot more talking options with the girls, TV, News, etc

But now all I can find is Love and Travel, and many of the options that would increase kink points with the girls are gone


Is there something wrong with my game? I'm playing on 21.1


Also, I want to trigger the Kylie stalker event and throw her in jail because she really creeps me out and kinda ruins the game for me, I installed the camera, waited 7 days, and even managed to find Sasha and Bree in the living room at 18:00 but the event didn't trigger

Should I reinstall or update?

It's not a bug. Every 10 levels you gain in charm, you get to add a new conversation topic of your choice.

Hey there. Not sure if this is a bug or something.  But there are times when I cannot use my skill books.  Like cooking/guitar.  When I go to try and click on them they are not usable.  Have pretty much full status bar and stuff so not sure.  I got stuck on guitar at 70% for days before it worked.  Then after I learned it and starting learning cooking skill it grayed out once more and been several in game days. 


On latest steam version.  Do I just need to wait it out?

im playing the last version 21.3

I have a problem with Bree 😭

Bree stopped at 50 kinky points/Sub points with lock 🔒 

Despite of reaching the max state of love points 100 ant completed all the story of Maid path .

So i searched on wiki fandom and i guess the problem in triggering the event ( kitchen for fun ) !?!? 

I meet the requirements of the event but i can’t start it !!!

Any Help please 🙏🏻

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Idk if you still need this but check the wiki. You'll need it a lot especially for girls like Palla, Emma, and Cassidy who are very reliant in timing or making the right choices.

https://love-sex.fandom.com/wiki/Bree

Check out Kitchen fun time and Living-room dominance to max KP.

Currently started replaying game from scratch  every version that has come from 21.3.0 and 21.3.1b , on android I can't seem to activate pool event (3rd event of lexi) to start has instructed on guide, also some character event start ups  take longer than on wiki or any guide available currently,  randomness has been turn off and full to see any changes on all matter and no significant changes either from this, even using cheats. Any help on this matter getting fix? Thanks in advance( I read on patron forum people having similar issues on this update post)

Had all night and today, try it on pc, vanilla and modded version, no cheats, and with cheats, still the same on a clean current version of the game, can't trigger lexi 3rd event (living room call then on pool event) at all at any hour, even at the one mention on wiki of 20h to 0(24h) at any possible variable or changing days or seasons. 

I'll have a look, thx

Thanks, perhaps I am been doing something wrong or there a prerequisite unknown thats not on the wiki or guide, anywho, thanks for the reply.

Just wanted to say that I'm also having this problem.  No matter what I do I can't get her to call for the pool event.  This is happening to me on PC.

There is a bug currently, you need to choose not to aproach her directly at the night club

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Can it be fixed on next fix update(21.3.1c perhaps?) Also if it does get fix, do you believe it have to start all over before the second or first event to trigger or after update can someone try from after previous version the third event on the fix updated one? XD btw thanks andrealphus, great game and thank for the always monthly updates

I'm not getting to ask Bree and Sasha about Minami request. What to do?

look in sex and love Wiki Fandom website

And see the requirements of minami to start events of story

Love the game! Starting after updating to 21.3.0e however I keep getting an error loading a savegame that causes my game not only to throw an exception but even crashes the whole game. Is there some kind of bug tracker where I can paste the log/stack trace?

You can come to the discord or post it here :)

Can you make bollywood actress charecter sex game

I would love to have an indian girl in the game at some point

It mean's you will add them or create another game 

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New walkthrough please

how to trig strip poker event?

for some reason the game won’t open on apple iPad Air tried all three download it just says application in the files 

El juego estará en español algún día?

Has the lag between screen transitions been fixed yet?

We work on it on every release, in this one we divided CPU load by three

I'm on the "see palla in the nightclub" part in the story tracker but I've been going to the nightclub for a long time and Palla doesn't show up. Help

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On android, how do u back up save file before updating? Dont wanna lose my game progress that i have so far

File manager->android->data->search the game folder and open copy that 'files'/ open files copy "save" folder out of the 'data' folder

I have been trying to find file manager on my fone, cant even find it

My games been running really slowly, is there anything I can do to fix it

Even with the latest update ?

Yeah, there are a few seconds of delay with everything i do, not sure why though since I can play far more demanding games on my PC

i have 100 LP with Minami but i' cant kiss or doing something else with her, any help? I stucked on 40 siscom

Can't wait for more in game content related to Bree as the main character.

Hi, i have a problem with the band harem, i dunno how to make it, i am following the criteria for it (or at least the criteria the fandom page tells) i neen to sleep with Anna and Kleio 3 times, 75 LP each and 50 kinky, rigth?

Oh yeah, also... Un Android version can You take descisions back?

i have bought the game and i want also the android version but it wants to re-buy it.what i can do

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